Ep209: ICO Elevator Caps Because Moar, Crypto Trading Common Sense, Ethereum and China

In this episode we talk at length about cryptocurrency trading and the perils that it could involve. Our show should not be considered investment advice to buy or sell or hold anything. The coming sea change will include a lot of success and at least some failure. Using the term “Investing” is a misnomer. Contributing to blockchain start-ups and projects ought to be better described as “Gambling”. We also talk about: The Brave Browser’s BAT token sells out in the space of 3 Ethereum blocks raising $36 Million in 24 seconds. Elevator Caps seem to be the new trend with token sales. The difference between Initial Coin Offering and Token Generation Event. This website keeps track of the success of tokens and coins against ETH and BTC. The Status Network might just be the glue that bonds the ethereum users, dapps, and more. Two massive chinese Bitcoin exchanges Huobi and OKCoin add Ethereum trading. The Ethereum Network has three times as many nodes as the Bitcoin network.

All this and more on the Neocash Radio podcast, episode 209 — Wednesday, May 31th, 2017!

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ICO Madness as BAT Sells out in 24 Seconds

We talked about Brave Browser’s recent switch from BTC to ETH on Ep200, and we first discussed Brave Browser on Ep167 way back in August!

Most notably was the incredibly small number of participants. The Token Generation Event raised $36 Million in 3 Ethereum blocks and blocks were found fast: just 24 seconds! The entire 1 Billion tokens are consolidated among just 190 addresses.

Leading up to the TGE there were some on reddit upset at the numerous last minute changes. Over a month ago the BAT team announced the fundraising goal of $15 Million with a cap of 1 Billion tokens. The goal was changed to $24 Million 9 days out with the reason being, ‘why not moar?’. Two days prior to the sale date the contract was deployed with an exchange rate based off 1 ETH = $153 of 1 ETH for 6400 BAT. In the end they raised $36 Million worth of ETH and presumably rising, more than 2 times their original goal.

This trend of token sales with elevator caps has seen Mystereum raise their cap from 10 to 14 million and sell out in 40 minutes. Storj raise their cap just prior to the token sale, Status had initially planned a cap of $10 million but that has changed to a $12 Million soft cap with hidden hard caps?

One thing is for certain, as overall market cap of cryptocurrencies crests $80 Billion there is a lot of funding available for a myriad of blockchain-based ventures. Especially if you can hype and have friends in high places.

I just want to take a moment and point out that an ICO is the term used for the launch of a new blockchain. The launch of a new token is actually termed a Token Generation Event. These are distinctly different events. Initial Coin Offerings refer to new blockchains spawning – these sort of events often require more resources and commitment. Token Generation Events often the creation of a mass of tokens that will be used on top of an existing and often well-established blockchain. The case of the tokens we talked about earlier in the show, Ethereum is the blockchain they are on.


Some of the ICO/TGE are looked at as get rich quick schemes. In fact, a chunk of investors buy big into the initial offering only to sell it for double or more as soon as it is on the market. This site looks at the historic data and compares Bitcoin and Ether to dozens of other blockchains and tokens.

The Status Network

A ‘socio-economic network’ based off of a private messaging platform. The network runs on a Mobile OS built for Ethereum and the coming Token Sale will sell off the Status Network Token starting June 17th.

SNT will be used to power the Status Client, including:

  • Governance of the Status Client
  • A Decentralized Push Notification Market
  • Community Curation of Content, powered by UserFeeds.io
  • Fiat-to-crypto ‘Teller Network’
  • DApp Directory
  • Sticker Market
  • Access to new features such as Tribute to Talk
  • Powering the Status User Acquisition Engine

The Status network aims to connect users, apps, market functions and more all through a discrete messaging service.

Chinese Digital Currency Exchanges Huobi And OKCoin To List Ether


Starting May 31, Ether will be offered on both the Huobi and OKCoin exchanges in China.

The Huobi digital currency exchange has announced that Ether will be available for trading on its platform starting May 31, 2017, at 12:00 (GMT+8). The first of China’s “Big 3” digital currency exchanges to offer Ether, Huobi’s announcement on May 27 could potentially have already contributed to the recent spike in the price of Ether, which saw a same day recovery of 40 percent. Per Huobi’s official twitter account, “There are many aspects of Ethereum that could outperform bitcoin, such as scalability, cost, [and] speed.”

OKCoin, Huobi’s main rival, will begin offering Ether at 22:00 (GMT+8) on May 31 as well; while Ether trading will officially commence on June 1. Last year’s decision by China’s Big 3 (BTCC being the third) to forgo listing Ether prompted many Chinese investors to use workaround trading strategies, such as buying bitcoin and using ShapeShift or other exchanges to convert it into Ether. If true, this type of buying might have created an artificial relationship between bitcoin and Ether which could potentially dissolve now that Chinese consumers can purchase Ether directly.

GDAX is a US based exchange that has recently added EUR/ETH and EUR/LTC pairs

Ethereum now has three times more nodes than Bitcoin


The ethereum network has nearly 25,000 reachable nodes, spread across the globe, less than two years after its launch, while bitcoin currently has only around 7,000 nodes that verify the network.

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